Assignments Being Dropped from Cumulative Grade

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I have had several teachers complain that isolated assignments in their gradebook are found to have the “Add to cumulative grade” box de-checked, and the assignment is unknowingly not contributing to the student's cumulative grade. Every teacher initially assumed that it was their own inadvertent mistake while creating the assignment, but several have come forward swearing that it wasn't their mistake, that somehow that checkbox is not being defaulted correctly or it is being de-checked during the term somehow. Most of teachers have said, “I never even touch those checkboxes since I want everything always counting." Has anybody else encountered this problem? Is there any easy report or visual indicate for teachers to see what is being included in the cumulative grade and what is not?

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  • @Geoffrey Goodfellow I have seen this happen when teachers import assignments from another course in between semesters. If the import is done between semesters, the 2nd step of the assignment import has a marking period dropdown, and it defaults to “none”. (It defaults to the current semester if it is during the semester) I have seen if it is set to none, the assignment is imported into the gradebook but the add to cumulative grade box is unchecked. Not sure if that is just the way we have our school setup - we have an interesting setup to say the least - but that is what I have seen.

  • Thanks for sharing your experience, @Chris Felinski. I'll see if I can determine if any of the assignments in question may have been imported in between semesters. My gut tells me no since they typically import them all at the beginning in which case I would think all the courses imported would show the problem or they import assignment by assignment during the term which wouldn't be an inter-term time. However, I will double check. Thanks again for the tipoff!

  • @Geoffrey Goodfellow - Some of our teachers have reported this happening. There is some sequence that results in that box getting unchecked, but I haven't been able to recreate it. One of these days I will (maybe) figure out what steps are involved to cause the problem.

    In my troubleshooting guide for grades that “just don't look right” I tell teachers: In the Gradebook, click the Reports menu and select Grades - By Student. The right-most column indicates if the grade was excluded from calculations. The report also shows other assignment parameters (max points, extra credit, factor, etc) that can mess with grade calculations if set incorrectly. It's easy to see the parameters for all of the assignments at once instead of opening the assignments one at a time.

  • @Brian Gray, thanks for sharing that you have noticed the same thing as well as your helpful suggestion for how you have teachers check their assignments. This is very helpful! Thank you.

  • @Geoffrey Goodfellow I've been noticing this as well.

    Every year I get a handful of teachers who realize somehow the “Publish grade” and “Add to cumulative grade” boxes get unchecked on an assignment. I've always chalked this up to user error. I know that sometimes teachers will want to add an assignment for students to see but if they haven't yet decided how many points an assignment will be worth, they have to temporarily uncheck “Add to gradebook” in order for the assignment to save. Later, they go back and re-check “Add to gradebook” but forget to also check “Publish grade” and “Add to cumulative grade” since they're so used to these automatically being applied.

    A related scenario is when importing assignments which has already been mentioned here. If teachers don't choose a Marking period in step 2 of the “Import assignments wizard”, the assignments will not be added to the gradebook. Before the school year starts, teachers will go in and import ALL of their assignments. When they get to step 2, the marking period defaults to the current marking period which for us is summer school. Since they can't choose multiple marking periods they leave the dropdown on “None” which means all of the assignments are imported with the “Add to gradebook” option unchecked. Then, when they have to go into each individual assignment to add the grading info (YIKES), those extra boxes get missed. I had tickets open about this process last fall because the import filters were excluding some assignments AND the knowledgebase article on the topic had incorrect information.

    This being said, the number of teacher complaints I've heard about this has definitely grown this year so either we have a lot more teachers making these mistakes or there is some sort of issue causing these options to uncheck. I haven't been able to nail it down either.


  • Thanks for sharing your similar experience, @Megan Day. I'm familiar with the importing assignments with no term problem that you and Chris have described, and I've been able to rule that out as the culprit in my most recent troubleshooting since none of the assignments affected by the problem happened to be imported. Each was created new from scratch during the existing term.

    Although there are surely some times where the problems is a simple mistake by the teacher, the number of complaints I've received this year is considerably more, so there does seem to be something more to it. Not sure what process or series of steps a teacher might take that unknowingly clear these checkboxes. Such a difficult thing to duplicate, and support just isn't really designed to understand this type of case scenario, so it is difficult for them to assist.

    My hope in putting this in the community is so that others see and comment to see if there is a trend that might be helpful to someone at Blackbaud.

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