Hiding addresses in Search Window
But when it comes to search screens and queries it seems there are only 2 global options:
1 - Allow everyone's names & full address to be visible in search screens no matter a user's viewing permissions.
2 - Only allow the names & addesses to be visible in search screens for constituents a user has permission to view,
(Just took me an age to find these options hidden away here

The problem is that #1 is really helpful for preventing dupes, but applied universally it creates potential security issues as the home addresses of staff who happen to be donors or major donors are available to anyone who knows their name.
We're now quite a large org and it's not really approporiate for the 60+ users all to be able to see the CEO's home address just becauase he once made a donation to us. And potentially any of the 60+ could have an issue with their manager & work out where their house is.
But the only alternative is that no-one can will know about potential duplicates creating a lot of work for me.
Am I right about this? Does anyone have any workaround, or ideas about how to work around this?
Matt
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Tell your CEO to set up a PO box and make this her primary address, like my CEO does.
But in all seriousness, I don't know of another solution (change her address to the org's address? Does it matter if she doesn't get mailings at home?). I've never considered this to be a security flaw, but I can see what you mean with an org as big as yours.4 -
Sorry, this may be a silly question, but how does this security feature create duplicates for you to filter? If the restricted records do not show on a query, are you saying that an employee will send out a mailing list unable to clean the hidden lines properly?
There may be some workarounds you can do in terms of structure and record marking -- it depends on your organizational workflow and practices. For instance:
1) If all queries/lists are passed to you (as seems to be indicated by your comment that it makes more work for you), then you could add a record attribute marking them as a "watch" record to make it easier to spot and clean them yourself. Require all employees to include the Attribute in their list outputs, even if they don't see the use.
2) Require all employees to use Export to output search results, no matter what. This automatically eliminates duplicates because Export generates a one-record-per-multiple-criteria list. You would still need to closely vet user Reports privileges to restrict access to reports that display donor addresses as well.
3) Depending on the types of communications these people need to receive, you could restrict search results displays through Config, add a solicit code to these restricted records, and require all employees to filter people with that solicit code out of their queries altogether. Then, only certain designated staff people would be in charge of maintaining communications/relationships with those flagged constituents.
Without knowing the exact nature of your organization and workflow, it's hard to suggest an exact workaround. But, either way it sounds like something that's going to require more than a security setting -- it's going to require a workflow structure change. However, if yoru current CEO agrees that it's a problem for employees to know their home address, then it should be easy enough to get buy-in from supervisors for that kind of structural change, right?
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Isn't it possible for anyone, on staff or not, to look up the CEO's address on the internet? And do all of the RE Users sign a confidentiality policy? (In my experience, most of the time there's a blanket policy that's part of the Human Resources hiring process that covers confidentiality of RE data. We had separate ones for volunteers and interns.) Is this a concern from your CEO or other upper management & also a donor staff member? I would hope that if someone has a big enough issue with a manager, that HR would know about it, and that they could give you a heads up. If that person is vindictive enough to do something with the manager's home address, then there are a lot of other things that person could probably do with access to RE in general that would cause problems for the manager (not to mention you and other staff).
I'm not sure what I'd do as far as RE Security. Although, you could possibly block those records from view and let everyone know that if they have something to put on the record of a staff member and can't find the record in RE, to just forward the data to you. If it's not a big list, this might work. Or, create intentional duplicate records (with a Constituent Code or something to identify them...and maybe manually set the Constituent ID to match the "real" record then add a suffix to it) and put the organization address on those records. Periodically check those records and merge (without deleting) anything into the "real" record, which is hidden from staff who don't need access to it.
This one's a pickle. Sorry I can't be of more help.5 -
Faith Murray:
Sorry, this may be a silly question, but how does this security feature create duplicates for you to filter? If the restricted records do not show on a query, are you saying that an employee will send out a mailing list unable to clean the hidden lines properly?
I probably didn't explain this very well, but didn't want to go on for too long. Basically when staff are adding on new records, we have them check first that the person isn't on RE already using the search window. But if the option is selected so they can only view the names (and addresses) they have security clearance to see, then they might re-add someone who is already on the system, creating a duplicate.
There may be some workarounds you can do in terms of structure and record marking -- it depends on your organizational workflow and practices...either way it sounds like something that's going to require more than a security setting -- it's going to require a workflow structure change. However, if yoru current CEO agrees that it's a problem for employees to know their home address, then it should be easy enough to get buy-in from supervisors for that kind of structural change, right?:
Yeah, that's a good point.
Thanks
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Jen Claudy:
Isn't it possible for anyone, on staff or not, to look up the CEO's address on the internet?
And do all of the RE Users sign a confidentiality policy? (In my experience, most of the time there's a blanket policy that's part of the Human Resources hiring process that covers confidentiality of RE data. We had separate ones for volunteers and interns.)
They do but...Is this a concern from your CEO or other upper management & also a donor staff member? I would hope that if someone has a big enough issue with a manager, that HR would know about it, and that they could give you a heads up. If that person is vindictive enough to do something with the manager's home address, then there are a lot of other things that person could probably do with access to RE in general that would cause problems for the manager (not to mention you and other staff).
...what has started me off on this was a concern from a lower level manager. In a previous role one of the people she managed had a grievance and turned up at her home one day. I think that activated a niggling concern I already had about this. And in this case, if someone is annoyed enough, or likely to be on the wrong end of a disciplinary then a minor () breach of data access protocols is probably not going to stop them
.I'm not sure what I'd do as far as RE Security. Although, you could possibly block those records from view and let everyone know that if they have something to put on the record of a staff member and can't find the record in RE, to just forward the data to you. If it's not a big list, this might work. Or, create intentional duplicate records (with a Constituent Code or something to identify them...and maybe manually set the Constituent ID to match the "real" record then add a suffix to it) and put the organization address on those records. Periodically check those records and merge (without deleting) anything into the "real" record, which is hidden from staff who don't need access to it.
Matt2 -
Basically when staff are adding on new records, we have them check first that the person isn't on RE already using the search window. But if the option is selected so they can only view the names (and addresses) they have security clearance to see, then they might re-add someone who is already on the system, creating a duplicate.
Ah, yes, that makes sense. Sorry, I was thinking query searches. In that case, Jen's dummy record idea is probably the best solution, especially if you marked them to only receive email acknowledgement letters (so that the thank-you letter doesn't get mailed to the dummy address).
Jen is pretty brilliant sometimes.
FYI, in the US it is also possible (though challenging) to opt out of online directories, provided you don't use social media. I have several relatives who are nonexistant online.
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Faith Murray:
Jen is pretty brilliant sometimes.
And sometimes I make things much more complicated than they need to be.
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Jen Claudy:
Isn't it possible for anyone, on staff or not, to look up the CEO's address on the internet? And do all of the RE Users sign a confidentiality policy? (In my experience, most of the time there's a blanket policy that's part of the Human Resources hiring process that covers confidentiality of RE data. We had separate ones for volunteers and interns.) Is this a concern from your CEO or other upper management & also a donor staff member? I would hope that if someone has a big enough issue with a manager, that HR would know about it, and that they could give you a heads up. If that person is vindictive enough to do something with the manager's home address, then there are a lot of other things that person could probably do with access to RE in general that would cause problems for the manager (not to mention you and other staff).
I'm not sure what I'd do as far as RE Security. Although, you could possibly block those records from view and let everyone know that if they have something to put on the record of a staff member and can't find the record in RE, to just forward the data to you. If it's not a big list, this might work. Or, create intentional duplicate records (with a Constituent Code or something to identify them...and maybe manually set the Constituent ID to match the "real" record then add a suffix to it) and put the organization address on those records. Periodically check those records and merge (without deleting) anything into the "real" record, which is hidden from staff who don't need access to it.
This one's a pickle. Sorry I can't be of more help.0 -
Christine Cooke:
I like Jen's options, the other is not a great one either when it comes to mailings and such. But you could move the contact info (address, phone etc.) to a Constituent Note that would not be visible) and leave the address/phone info blank.Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. I'll try and remember to keep you all posted when I've worked out what I'm going to do.
Matt
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