Reporting correct totals when a pledge falls on multiple FYs

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Hello,


I am looking for advice on how to input a gift that falls over multiple fiscal years. Currently my issue is when we receive a pledge (to be paid monthly) half way through our Fiscal Year.


Example: Say the individual is pledging $10/month for 12 months, half-way through a fiscal year. I input the pledge for $120 and my dashboard and reporting to my fundraisers is going to make it look like we are expecting to receive $120 in this FY, even though it is actually only ever going to be $60. 


How do you handle situations like this?


My thought was to input it as two separate pledges (one for what will be rec. this FY and one for next FY) but if there is a more sophisticated way to solve this issue, I would love to hear it. 


Thanks! 
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  • It depends on how your organization's finances are set up.  At my org, even if the payments extend across multiple fiscal years, we still book 100% of the income for this fiscal year, unless the donor has specified that they intend an amount for a future fiscal year, in which case we have a special fund set up for "Time Restricted" donations.  The donor may then chose to pay on that pledge even during this fiscal year, but the funds aren't released until next FY.
  • The separate pledges solution is what first came to mind for me, and I think it is likely to be your only bet if you absolutely need the gift coding to be different across the respective fiscal years. To my understanding, even though Installments get entered as bona fide gifts of the type Pay-Cash, they automatically pick up the coding of the original pledge once applied to it (regardless of what you may have entered prior to taking that step) and this cannot be altered. All installments will end up being coded the same even if they spill over into a different FY.
  • Honestly, with a situation like this, I wouldn't even input a pledge. It's a recurring gift that ends after 12 payments. That way, all the funds are attributed to the FY in which they are received.


    I do this wherever possible now, since GAAP accounting standards require all pledges be booked completely in the year in which they are received - even when we had a donor specify that she was pledging $1,000 a year for five years, we had to book it as one $5,000 pledge in this year instead of five pledges of $1,000 in each FY (which is essentially the donor's intent).


    HOWEVER! If your Finance office isn't using RE for reporting, you can essentially book it however makes most sense for your fundraisers.
  • Agreed. We count the entire pledge amount as income in the year the pledge was made. Obviously, this makes our year-to-year income reporting bounce up and down between capital campaign and non-campaign years, quite drastically. It works for us, however, because if we need a more balanced report for anticipated revenue, we simply use the canned Cash Flow reports to project pledge payments over the next several years. It is advantageous to book the pledge in its first fiscal year, especially, if you are trying to meet a challenge grant for a campaign and need to show the revenue accrued within a certain span of months.


    If you must have the pledge payments reported as income in the years the payments are actually received, I would agree that using a recurring gift template or splitting it into two pledges is probably best. We will do this on very rare occasion if the pledge is made to our annual appeal, rather than our capital campaign. (Donor says she wants to give $5,000 over 5 years, but the appeal is annual, so we enter one $1,000 to each successive annual appeal, for example.) This allows us to include her on our special segmented mailing for "Last Year's Appeal-Givers" once her pledge is ended, instead of it looking as though she has not give to our current appeal for 5 years. The drawback to this, though, is if you use Pledge Reminder notices (for people who mail in monthly checks), and the donor sees a "pledge balance" that does not make sense to her. ("Why does my reminder say I only have a $800 balance when I pledged $5,000?") So it really depends on the type of fundraising, donor cultivation, and accounting situation that you employ.

  • Have you considered setting these up as Recurring gifts rather than
    pledges? Recurring pay-cash gifts are easy to process in batch and
    would allow you to easily track what you received in the correct
    fiscal year.


     





  • You are recording it correctly.  If you want to look at what is expected within the fiscal year you need to look at the Cash Flow Report.  That will calculate the math on what portion of the pledge is coming in what year.
  • Daniel Bayer:

    Honestly, with a situation like this, I wouldn't even input a pledge. It's a recurring gift that ends after 12 payments. That way, all the funds are attributed to the FY in which they are received.


    I do this wherever possible now, since GAAP accounting standards require all pledges be booked completely in the year in which they are received - even when we had a donor specify that she was pledging $1,000 a year for five years, we had to book it as one $5,000 pledge in this year instead of five pledges of $1,000 in each FY (which is essentially the donor's intent).


    HOWEVER! If your Finance office isn't using RE for reporting, you can essentially book it however makes most sense for your fundraisers.

    If you don't book the pledge and the payments are spread over two or more FYs then how do you deal with having a record (or not in your example) of the full amount committed -- thus being able to pull honor roll/giving lists for acknowledgement?  curious to know

  • I agree with those who have said that it really depends on how your org counts gifts, whether you need to reconcile with your Finance Dept, etc.  We count the entire pledge in the year that it is made.  Actually...if we were counting Revenue Received, we'd run reports on Pay-Cash Gifts rather than Pledge Gifts, so I would still enter one Pledge and use a split gift where needed.


    Sometimes (particularly with Board members) we need to show different Appeals on the same pledge.  So a board member pledges $5k over the next 5 years.  I enter it as a split gift with a different Appeal for each year, although the Campaign & Fund is the same (for us, at least).  The problem comes when the payments are entered, because RE automatically assumes that the first $1k payment should be split 5 ways according to the split gift instructions.  So each year, you have to remember to edit (essentially remove) the split gift on the payment Gift Record.


    You could use Recurring Gifts, provided you don't (and won't) need to reconcile with Finance or count the entire pledge in the year it was made.  I wouldn't do this, because we do reconcile (monthly for cash and in even months for Pledge receivables), and it would cause a big headache there.  I do have a (different) board member with a monthly recurring credit card gift, but no actual pledge.  For this one, when the FY turns over, I need to remember to open the Recurring Gift Record and change the Appeal, or else all RG Pmts will be entered with the details of the RG itself, which is not what I want.  For us, the Recurring Gift Record is just a template, and the RG Pay-Cash is what counts in reports, etc.


    For the volume of cases like these (not high at all) it's not worth the complication of an automated process.  I generally know the donors and situations well enough and if I miss something, it's usually discovered either while reconciling with Finance or running Development reports.  Documenting (for once outside of RE) would be a good idea...just in case the one person who knows what's what (or just which constituents have an unusual situation) gets hit by a bus and someone else has to take over.  =)
  • Thank you everyone for the insight! It is very appreciated. 


    L

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