RE as subledger for third party accounting app
Options
We'd like to use Raiser's Edge as the detail subledger for our third party G/L.
Gift detail would be captured in Raiser's Edge, and summary exports of batches entered are then generated to support JE's into the G/L.
Does anyone use RE in this capacity at this point? Do you have recommendations regarding best practices?
I'm thinking of a number of questions :
Can one "Close" prior periods or previously entered batches against further editing?
Is there a "Data changes" dataset that I can tap, exporting detail, by login, of changes made to previously entered records?
How does one guard against all those actions (deleting gifts, changing coding, backdating new data after receonciliations have been completed, etc.) that non-accountants wouldn't think twice about doing, but which could completely compromise a closed reconciliation?
Thanks for any perspective you may have.
JFC
Gift detail would be captured in Raiser's Edge, and summary exports of batches entered are then generated to support JE's into the G/L.
Does anyone use RE in this capacity at this point? Do you have recommendations regarding best practices?
I'm thinking of a number of questions :
Can one "Close" prior periods or previously entered batches against further editing?
Is there a "Data changes" dataset that I can tap, exporting detail, by login, of changes made to previously entered records?
How does one guard against all those actions (deleting gifts, changing coding, backdating new data after receonciliations have been completed, etc.) that non-accountants wouldn't think twice about doing, but which could completely compromise a closed reconciliation?
Thanks for any perspective you may have.
JFC
Tagged:
0
Comments
-
Can one "Close" prior periods or previously entered batches against further editing?
You can mark the gifts as "Posted to the GL" on the second tab of the Gift record. This can be done manually or by global change.
Once marked as posted, gifts can only be adjusted not just changed.
Is there a "Data changes" dataset that I can tap, exporting detail, by login, of changes made to previously entered records?
Unfortunately there is no history of changes in Raisers edge, you can only see who was the last person that changed something in the record. Zeidman offers a software called Audit Trail that you might want to look into.
How does one guard against all those actions (deleting gifts, changing coding, backdating new data after receonciliations have been completed, etc.)
You can limit access trough security settings under Admin/ Security and create user groups depending on their scope of work.
Hope this helps.
0 -
Your proposed use of RE for accounting purposes doesn't sit well with me personally. RE is not accounting software.
Users can enter any gift date, mark gift as not posted or posted. Posted gifts can be adjusted and depending on how adjustment is entered (date, checkbox) it may or may not post the way you would desire. There's not really a way to 'close' per accounting definition. There isn't really a way beyond limiting access to prevent changes to records. There is also a plug-in that a user may have that allows gifts to be "un-posted" - once unposted, gifts can be edited and/or deleted. You'd need to be sure no one has that access.
Yes, Cathleen, just posted a response. Some of the same points I was going to raise so will stop here.
0 -
Thank you richly, JoAnn and Cathleen, for your comments. Very helpful indeed.
I have noted the "open" nature of RE's datasets. However, I'll continue to resist the conclusion that RE cannot be used as a subledger for an accounting package.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but without some ongoing, app-driven or policy/procedural mechanism to tie the two datasets together, I'm not seeing how an org would be able to produce detailed gift support for G/L balances during a FYE audit, without maintaining parallel detail systems, one in RE, and another one across the hall in the G/L, both neeeding to be synchronized periodically through intensive internal reconciliations. My mind is reeling at the redundancy of effort such a system would seem to engender.
Again, thank you both! I appreciate your thoughts. I'm confident there's a solution to this challenge out there, and you have both provided glimpses into aspects that will need to be considered.
Best!
Jed
0
Categories
- All Categories
- Shannon parent
- shannon 2
- shannon 1
- 21 Advocacy DC Users Group
- 14 BBCRM PAG Discussions
- 89 High Education Program Advisory Group (HE PAG)
- 28 Luminate CRM DC Users Group
- 8 DC Luminate CRM Users Group
- Luminate PAG
- 5.9K Blackbaud Altru®
- 58 Blackbaud Award Management™ and Blackbaud Stewardship Management™
- 409 bbcon®
- 2.1K Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Internet Solutions™
- donorCentrics®
- 1.1K Blackbaud eTapestry®
- 2.8K Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT®
- 1.1K Blackbaud Grantmaking™
- 527 Education Management Solutions for Higher Education
- 1 JustGiving® from Blackbaud®
- 4.6K Education Management Solutions for K-12 Schools
- Blackbaud Luminate Online & Blackbaud TeamRaiser
- 16.4K Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®
- 4.1K SKY Developer
- 547 ResearchPoint™
- 151 Blackbaud Tuition Management™
- 61 everydayhero
- 3 Campaign Ideas
- 58 General Discussion
- 115 Blackbaud ID
- 87 K-12 Blackbaud ID
- 6 Admin Console
- 949 Organizational Best Practices
- 353 The Tap (Just for Fun)
- 235 Blackbaud Community Feedback Forum
- 55 Admissions Event Management EAP
- 18 MobilePay Terminal + BBID Canada EAP
- 36 EAP for New Email Campaigns Experience in Blackbaud Luminate Online®
- 109 EAP for 360 Student Profile in Blackbaud Student Information System
- 41 EAP for Assessment Builder in Blackbaud Learning Management System™
- 9 Technical Preview for SKY API for Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Altru®
- 55 Community Advisory Group
- 46 Blackbaud Community Ideas
- 26 Blackbaud Community Challenges
- 7 Security Testing Forum
- 3 Blackbaud Staff Discussions
- 1 Blackbaud Partners Discussions
- 1 Blackbaud Giving Search™
- 35 EAP Student Assignment Details and Assignment Center
- 39 EAP Core - Roles and Tasks
- 59 Blackbaud Community All-Stars Discussions
- 20 Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT® Online Giving EAP
- Diocesan Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT® User’s Group
- 2 Blackbaud Consultant’s Community
- 43 End of Term Grade Entry EAP
- 92 EAP for Query in Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®
- 38 Standard Reports for Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT® EAP
- 12 Payments Assistant for Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT® EAP
- 6 Ask an All Star (Austen Brown)
- 8 Ask an All-Star Alex Wong (Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®)
- 1 Ask an All-Star Alex Wong (Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT®)
- 6 Ask an All-Star (Christine Robertson)
- 21 Ask an Expert (Anthony Gallo)
- Blackbaud Francophone Group
- 22 Ask an Expert (David Springer)
- 4 Raiser's Edge NXT PowerUp Challenge #1 (Query)
- 6 Ask an All-Star Sunshine Reinken Watson and Carlene Johnson
- 4 Raiser's Edge NXT PowerUp Challenge: Events
- 14 Ask an All-Star (Elizabeth Johnson)
- 7 Ask an Expert (Stephen Churchill)
- 2025 ARCHIVED FORUM POSTS
- 322 ARCHIVED | Financial Edge® Tips and Tricks
- 164 ARCHIVED | Raiser's Edge® Blog
- 300 ARCHIVED | Raiser's Edge® Blog
- 441 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Altru® Tips and Tricks
- 66 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud NetCommunity™ Blog
- 211 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Target Analytics® Tips and Tricks
- 47 Blackbaud CRM Higher Ed Product Advisory Group (HE PAG)
- Luminate CRM DC Users Group
- 225 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud eTapestry® Tips and Tricks
- 1 Blackbaud eTapestry® Know How Blog
- 19 Blackbaud CRM Product Advisory Group (BBCRM PAG)
- 1 Blackbaud K-12 Education Solutions™ Blog
- 280 ARCHIVED | Mixed Community Announcements
- 3 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Corporations™ & Blackbaud Foundations™ Hosting Status
- 1 npEngage
- 24 ARCHIVED | K-12 Announcements
- 15 ARCHIVED | FIMS Host*Net Hosting Status
- 23 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Outcomes & Online Applications (IGAM) Hosting Status
- 22 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud DonorCentral Hosting Status
- 14 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Grantmaking™ UK Hosting Status
- 117 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Internet Solutions™ Announcements
- 50 Blackbaud NetCommunity™ Blog
- 169 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Grantmaking™ Tips and Tricks
- Advocacy DC Users Group
- 718 Community News
- Blackbaud Altru® Hosting Status
- 104 ARCHIVED | Member Spotlight
- 145 ARCHIVED | Hosting Blog
- 149 JustGiving® from Blackbaud® Blog
- 97 ARCHIVED | bbcon® Blogs
- 19 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Luminate CRM™ Announcements
- 161 Luminate Advocacy News
- 187 Organizational Best Practices Blog
- 67 everydayhero Blog
- 52 Blackbaud SKY® Reporting Announcements
- 17 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud SKY® Reporting for K-12 Announcements
- 3 Luminate Online Product Advisory Group (LO PAG)
- 81 ARCHIVED | JustGiving® from Blackbaud® Tips and Tricks
- 1 ARCHIVED | K-12 Conference Blog
- Blackbaud Church Management™ Announcements
- ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Award Management™ and Blackbaud Stewardship Management™ Announcements
- 1 Blackbaud Peer-to-Peer Fundraising™, Powered by JustGiving® Blogs
- 39 Tips, Tricks, and Timesavers!
- 56 Blackbaud Church Management™ Resources
- 154 Blackbaud Church Management™ Announcements
- 1 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Church Management™ Tips and Tricks
- 11 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Higher Education Solutions™ Announcements
- 7 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Guided Fundraising™ Blog
- 2 Blackbaud Fundraiser Performance Management™ Blog
- 9 Foundations Events and Content
- 14 ARCHIVED | Blog Posts
- 2 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud FIMS™ Announcement and Tips
- 59 Blackbaud Partner Announcements
- 10 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Impact Edge™ EAP Blogs
- 1 Community Help Blogs
- Diocesan Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT® Users' Group
- Blackbaud Consultant’s Community
- Blackbaud Francophone Group
- 1 BLOG ARCHIVE CATEGORY
- Blackbaud Community™ Discussions
- 8.3K Blackbaud Luminate Online® & Blackbaud TeamRaiser® Discussions
- 5.7K Jobs Board