Constituent Codes at a Hospital
1. I am inpartial to using "donor" as a code but I am thinking it might be a good catch all if we don't have any info on the person or organization. Thoughts?
2. In general, what are some codes used by current hospitals?
3. How do people handle records who are the recipient of a tribute/IMO gift? Being a huge network, we probably have thousands of these records. Does it make sense to not put a constituent code here?
Codes I am considering in hierarchy order and I would be using to from dates.
Individual Records:
Board Member (then use relationship to distinguish which Board and which Hospital since we have many boards and Hospitals within the network
Physician
Employee
Patient
Donor
Prospect
Org Records:
Board Member (company they own/work for)
Vendor
Foundation
Corporate Foundation
Corporation/Business
Family Foundation
Government
Community Organization (clubs, groups, schools)
Thanks for any comments.
Courtney
Comments
-
Not sure about Org Records - Board Member. That sounds more like a relationship type than a constituent code. If you put that cons code on an org record that has multiple contacts how will you know which contact is the board member?
A good guide for this is to think about your reporting needs. For example, will you need reports that show giving grouped/totaled by these cons codes?
One additional cons code for a hospital might be "guarantor" which might make sense if you want to track donor's who are not patients but responsible for one (instead of having to figure it out through relationships).
I don't like the "Donor" code as that information can be determined by their gift information and constantly changes (depending on your definition of a donor). I prefer "Individual" instead. Also, if you use Donor, how would you code a patient, physician or employee that is also a donor? Would they have two cons codes?
"Prospect" also changes based on their giving and your definition. If you use it be sure to clearly define when they are a prospect and when it should be updated/changed (are they still a prospect if an ask has been made? Are they still a prospect if they told you that they are not interested in donating?). I wouldn't use it, there are other codes in RE to track that they are a prospect.
Josh2 -
Courtney Klein:
I am starting to look at cleaning up constituent codes because quite honestly, they are a mess. They have acquired over 40. This a fairly large hospital so I don't mind having 10+.
1. I am inpartial to using "donor" as a code but I am thinking it might be a good catch all if we don't have any info on the person or organization. Thoughts?
2. In general, what are some codes used by current hospitals?
3. How do people handle records who are the recipient of a tribute/IMO gift? Being a huge network, we probably have thousands of these records. Does it make sense to not put a constituent code here?
Codes I am considering in hierarchy order and I would be using to from dates.
Individual Records:
Board Member (then use relationship to distinguish which Board and which Hospital since we have many boards and Hospitals within the network
Physician
Employee
Patient
Donor
Prospect
Org Records:
Board Member (company they own/work for)
Vendor
Foundation
Corporate Foundation
Corporation/Business
Family Foundation
Government
Community Organization (clubs, groups, schools)
Thanks for any comments.
Courtney40?!! That's nothing! I think we had 60+ before our clean up!
We have both a healthcare (long term and rehab) and housing components, so below are just the ones that apply to the healthcare side of things"
Volunteer Leader (These are Members of OUR Board of Directors, Committee members, Trustees for Life, etc)
Former Volunteer Leader (As this is an actual Constit code, not just signifying the end of their Volunteer role)
Patient
Family Member
Staff
Individual (ie, none of the above)
Organization (for non-profits)
Corporations (for profit)
Foundations
Board/Committee
The last one is for the record of the actual Board/Committee that someone might serve on.
We track what Board/Committee a Volunteer Leader serves on through relationships, linked back to the Board/Committee record. So, let's say Jane Rogers is a Volunteer Leader. We have set up a relationship between her and an Org record called "Board of Directors" (Leadership/member or once she done, Former Leadership/Former Member). This allows us to have fewer Constit codes, while still being able to see the various leadership positions someone holds. And allows up to see who the current and former members are on any specific Board/Committee.
We track Vendor under Attribute (a further definition of Corporation).
(Hope this made sense)
Shani
0 -
Joshua Bekerman bCRE:
Not sure about Org Records - Board Member. That sounds more like a relationship type than a constituent code. If you put that cons code on an org record that has multiple contacts how will you know which contact is the board member?
A good guide for this is to think about your reporting needs. For example, will you need reports that show giving grouped/totaled by these cons codes?
One additional cons code for a hospital might be "guarantor" which might make sense if you want to track donor's who are not patients but responsible for one (instead of having to figure it out through relationships).
I don't like the "Donor" code as that information can be determined by their gift information and constantly changes (depending on your definition of a donor). I prefer "Individual" instead. Also, if you use Donor, how would you code a patient, physician or employee that is also a donor? Would they have two cons codes?
"Prospect" also changes based on their giving and your definition. If you use it be sure to clearly define when they are a prospect and when it should be updated/changed (are they still a prospect if an ask has been made? Are they still a prospect if they told you that they are not interested in donating?). I wouldn't use it, there are other codes in RE to track that they are a prospect.
JoshJosh - thanks for your responses. I agree about the Board Member on org records. It's how they set it up and I am not convinced. I was only thinking of using "donor" when we don't know anything else about them (i.e. we don't know that they are a patient, employee etc). But again that would mean upkeep for sure. I just don't know how to handle these people that donate but we don't know if they are one of those yet. We have a large grassroots program called Tackle Kids Cancer that is growing exponentially. Tons of people donate through this program who we don't have info on. Your suggestion is individual?
I would change prospect out once they committed. I understand what you are saying other codes. We do a good job of coding/adding proposals and such so maybe it isn't necessary.
0 -
I believe the usual default for miscellaneous/unknown persons is "Friend", as opposed to Donor. Donor can be assessed via their Giving History, and if a Donor hasn't donated for 5+ years, are they still a donor?
If you wish to streamline your Const. codes furthur, one suggestion that came up on a different thread was to re-purpose the "Industry" field on Bio 2 to create a type of Const. code sub-category. So you could dub all Foundations as a "Foundation" Const. code, but then sub-categorize them as "Family Foundation" and "Corporate Foundation" under the Industry type. Same with Corporations/Businesses.
Bill Connors advised against using labels like "Major Gift Donor" as a Constituent Code, because that criteria changes frequently and can be hard to maintain accurately, in bulk, on a Constituent Code field. I assume the same principle would hold true for "Prospects". We currently mark Prospects using an Attribute in our system, since we don't have the Prospect module.
Other than that, I think your proposed list seems appropriate and functional.
0
Categories
- All Categories
- Shannon parent
- shannon 2
- shannon 1
- 21 Advocacy DC Users Group
- 14 BBCRM PAG Discussions
- 89 High Education Program Advisory Group (HE PAG)
- 28 Luminate CRM DC Users Group
- 8 DC Luminate CRM Users Group
- Luminate PAG
- 5.9K Blackbaud Altru®
- 58 Blackbaud Award Management™ and Blackbaud Stewardship Management™
- 409 bbcon®
- 2.1K Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Internet Solutions™
- donorCentrics®
- 1.1K Blackbaud eTapestry®
- 2.8K Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT®
- 1.1K Blackbaud Grantmaking™
- 527 Education Management Solutions for Higher Education
- 1 JustGiving® from Blackbaud®
- 4.6K Education Management Solutions for K-12 Schools
- Blackbaud Luminate Online & Blackbaud TeamRaiser
- 16.4K Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®
- 4.1K SKY Developer
- 547 ResearchPoint™
- 151 Blackbaud Tuition Management™
- 1 YourCause® from Blackbaud®
- 61 everydayhero
- 3 Campaign Ideas
- 58 General Discussion
- 115 Blackbaud ID
- 87 K-12 Blackbaud ID
- 6 Admin Console
- 949 Organizational Best Practices
- 353 The Tap (Just for Fun)
- 235 Blackbaud Community Feedback Forum
- 55 Admissions Event Management EAP
- 18 MobilePay Terminal + BBID Canada EAP
- 36 EAP for New Email Campaigns Experience in Blackbaud Luminate Online®
- 109 EAP for 360 Student Profile in Blackbaud Student Information System
- 41 EAP for Assessment Builder in Blackbaud Learning Management System™
- 9 Technical Preview for SKY API for Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Altru®
- 55 Community Advisory Group
- 46 Blackbaud Community Ideas
- 26 Blackbaud Community Challenges
- 7 Security Testing Forum
- 1.1K ARCHIVED FORUMS | Inactive and/or Completed EAPs
- 3 Blackbaud Staff Discussions
- 7.7K ARCHIVED FORUM CATEGORY [ID 304]
- 1 Blackbaud Partners Discussions
- 1 Blackbaud Giving Search™
- 35 EAP Student Assignment Details and Assignment Center
- 39 EAP Core - Roles and Tasks
- 59 Blackbaud Community All-Stars Discussions
- 20 Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT® Online Giving EAP
- Diocesan Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT® User’s Group
- 2 Blackbaud Consultant’s Community
- 43 End of Term Grade Entry EAP
- 92 EAP for Query in Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®
- 38 Standard Reports for Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT® EAP
- 12 Payments Assistant for Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT® EAP
- 6 Ask an All Star (Austen Brown)
- 8 Ask an All-Star Alex Wong (Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT®)
- 1 Ask an All-Star Alex Wong (Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT®)
- 6 Ask an All-Star (Christine Robertson)
- 21 Ask an Expert (Anthony Gallo)
- Blackbaud Francophone Group
- 22 Ask an Expert (David Springer)
- 4 Raiser's Edge NXT PowerUp Challenge #1 (Query)
- 6 Ask an All-Star Sunshine Reinken Watson and Carlene Johnson
- 4 Raiser's Edge NXT PowerUp Challenge: Events
- 14 Ask an All-Star (Elizabeth Johnson)
- 7 Ask an Expert (Stephen Churchill)
- 2025 ARCHIVED FORUM POSTS
- 322 ARCHIVED | Financial Edge® Tips and Tricks
- 164 ARCHIVED | Raiser's Edge® Blog
- 300 ARCHIVED | Raiser's Edge® Blog
- 441 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Altru® Tips and Tricks
- 66 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud NetCommunity™ Blog
- 211 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Target Analytics® Tips and Tricks
- 47 Blackbaud CRM Higher Ed Product Advisory Group (HE PAG)
- Luminate CRM DC Users Group
- 225 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud eTapestry® Tips and Tricks
- 1 Blackbaud eTapestry® Know How Blog
- 19 Blackbaud CRM Product Advisory Group (BBCRM PAG)
- 1 Blackbaud K-12 Education Solutions™ Blog
- 280 ARCHIVED | Mixed Community Announcements
- 3 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Corporations™ & Blackbaud Foundations™ Hosting Status
- 1 npEngage
- 24 ARCHIVED | K-12 Announcements
- 15 ARCHIVED | FIMS Host*Net Hosting Status
- 23 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Outcomes & Online Applications (IGAM) Hosting Status
- 22 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud DonorCentral Hosting Status
- 14 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Grantmaking™ UK Hosting Status
- 117 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud CRM™ and Blackbaud Internet Solutions™ Announcements
- 50 Blackbaud NetCommunity™ Blog
- 169 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Grantmaking™ Tips and Tricks
- Advocacy DC Users Group
- 718 Community News
- Blackbaud Altru® Hosting Status
- 104 ARCHIVED | Member Spotlight
- 145 ARCHIVED | Hosting Blog
- 149 JustGiving® from Blackbaud® Blog
- 97 ARCHIVED | bbcon® Blogs
- 19 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Luminate CRM™ Announcements
- 161 Luminate Advocacy News
- 187 Organizational Best Practices Blog
- 67 everydayhero Blog
- 52 Blackbaud SKY® Reporting Announcements
- 17 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud SKY® Reporting for K-12 Announcements
- 3 Luminate Online Product Advisory Group (LO PAG)
- 81 ARCHIVED | JustGiving® from Blackbaud® Tips and Tricks
- 1 ARCHIVED | K-12 Conference Blog
- Blackbaud Church Management™ Announcements
- ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Award Management™ and Blackbaud Stewardship Management™ Announcements
- 1 Blackbaud Peer-to-Peer Fundraising™, Powered by JustGiving® Blogs
- 39 Tips, Tricks, and Timesavers!
- 56 Blackbaud Church Management™ Resources
- 154 Blackbaud Church Management™ Announcements
- 1 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Church Management™ Tips and Tricks
- 11 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Higher Education Solutions™ Announcements
- 7 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Guided Fundraising™ Blog
- 2 Blackbaud Fundraiser Performance Management™ Blog
- 9 Foundations Events and Content
- 14 ARCHIVED | Blog Posts
- 2 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud FIMS™ Announcement and Tips
- 59 Blackbaud Partner Announcements
- 10 ARCHIVED | Blackbaud Impact Edge™ EAP Blogs
- 1 Community Help Blogs
- Diocesan Blackbaud Raiser’s Edge NXT® Users' Group
- Blackbaud Consultant’s Community
- Blackbaud Francophone Group
- 1 BLOG ARCHIVE CATEGORY
- Blackbaud Community™ Discussions
- 8.3K Blackbaud Luminate Online® & Blackbaud TeamRaiser® Discussions
- 5.7K Jobs Board