Querying installments
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Ian Atwell:
Is there any way of running a query or export that lists all installments to a gift and also know which installments have been paid? When it was paid would be nice too. IanDoes this need to be something you print? If you open the pledge and go to the installments/payments page this is laid out very nicely. Unfortunately I do not think there is any report in RE that mimics this format exactly.
The Constituent giving history in Financial Reports (filtered only on pledges and pledge payments) comes close but is not divided up by installment so if there are multiple pledges or confusing or late payments it gets a bit harder to read.
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Ian Atwell:
Is there any way of running a query or export that lists all installments to a gift and also know which installments have been paid? When it was paid would be nice too. IanThe gift installment/payments tab was my suggestion also. It works well for just a few. If you need it for a large number of donors, I don't have any suggestions. When you are on the gift installment/payments tab, you can right click and get the option to export the grid to excel. Just a thought...
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Ian Atwell:
Is there any way of running a query or export that lists all installments to a gift and also know which installments have been paid? When it was paid would be nice too. IanYou can also use the "Cash Flow Report" which will show Installment date by time period (monthly, yearly, etc) and will show what is past due. However it will not show when a payment was made.
I certainly wish BB would come up with an Installment report which shows what you are asking. Anyone know if this is logged as a suggestion?
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Shannon Stepanek:
The Past Due and Cash Flow reports help, but don't contain enough info for me. I'm working on an arrears list, but want fields like constituent id, any missed instalment dates, instalment amount, eft flag, send reminder flag, etcetera. I can output the info, just it won't tell me which instalments are paid.You can also use the "Cash Flow Report" which will show Installment date by time period (monthly, yearly, etc) and will show what is past due. However it will not show when a payment was made.
I certainly wish BB would come up with an Installment report which shows what you are asking. Anyone know if this is logged as a suggestion?
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JoAnn Strommen:
The gift installment/payments tab was my suggestion also. It works well for just a few. If you need it for a large number of donors, I don't have any suggestions. When you are on the gift installment/payments tab, you can right click and get the option to export the grid to excel. Just a thought...
Thanks for that info, JoAnn! I didn't know that feature was there.
Cheers,
Trish Mayhorn
Development Coordinator
Methodist ElderCare Services
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Ian Atwell:
The Past Due and Cash Flow reports help, but don't contain enough info for me. I'm working on an arrears list, but want fields like constituent id, any missed instalment dates, instalment amount, eft flag, send reminder flag, etcetera. I can output the info, just it won't tell me which instalments are paid.Ian, I would love to see an example of your 'arrears' report. Can you give an example?
Thanks,
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Shannon Stepanek:
Sorry for the late reply - the notification email was stuck in my spam filter. I did manage to get my arrears report - although it was complicated. There may be an easier way, but this works for me. I can use this export for both arrears and write-offs. I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries. You can attach query of all pledges with a balance greater than zero to the export, or run an export to excel of all pledges and their write-off amounts and dates, and create a static query of the gift id's that have a write-off. I was unable to create a query of pledges that have been written off, although it may be possible. On the output tab I chose - Gifts: Gift id, date, amount, balance, and Campaign info. Instalments: date and amount Instalments -> Payment: amount Instalments -> Write-offs: amount Constituent: id and name Write-offs: date and amount (*see below) From that data I can get a list of every instalment, and for each instalment I list how much is due, when it was due, what was paid, and what was written off. I can easily tell if any instalment is fully paid, partially paid, written off, or unpaid. From this I can create a cashflow-like report by month for write-offs, or list any unpaid instalment from a given time period (arrears). I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. I hope that helps. Ian * I added the "Write-offs: date and amount" to the export so I could ignore pledges that were written off long ago, I was only interested in how the recent write-offs were going to affect our cashflow reports that we ran in November for forecasting.Ian, I would love to see an example of your 'arrears' report. Can you give an example?
Thanks,
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Ian Atwell:
The last post lost all its formatting - looks hard to read. Any thoughts on what I did wrong? Ian
Sorry for the late reply - the notification email was stuck in my spam filter. I did manage to get my arrears report - although it was complicated. There may be an easier way, but this works for me. I can use this export for both arrears and write-offs. I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries. You can attach query of all pledges with a balance greater than zero to the export, or run an export to excel of all pledges and their write-off amounts and dates, and create a static query of the gift id's that have a write-off. I was unable to create a query of pledges that have been written off, although it may be possible. On the output tab I chose - Gifts: Gift id, date, amount, balance, and Campaign info. Instalments: date and amount Instalments -> Payment: amount Instalments -> Write-offs: amount Constituent: id and name Write-offs: date and amount (*see below) From that data I can get a list of every instalment, and for each instalment I list how much is due, when it was due, what was paid, and what was written off. I can easily tell if any instalment is fully paid, partially paid, written off, or unpaid. From this I can create a cashflow-like report by month for write-offs, or list any unpaid instalment from a given time period (arrears). I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. I hope that helps. Ian * I added the "Write-offs: date and amount" to the export so I could ignore pledges that were written off long ago, I was only interested in how the recent write-offs were going to affect our cashflow reports that we ran in November for forecasting.0 -
Ian Atwell:
What browser did you use, Ian? I believe formatting only works with MS Internet Explorer.
The last post lost all its formatting - looks hard to read. Any thoughts on what I did wrong? Ian0 -
Ian Atwell:
[quote user="Ian Atwell"]The last post lost all its formatting - looks hard to read. Any thoughts on what I did wrong? Ian[/quote]
The last post lost all its formatting - looks hard to read. Any thoughts on what I did wrong? IanYou didn't do anything wrong, it's just old forum software.
If you're using Chrome or Firefox, you have to manually put in line breaks and paragraph breaks using <p> for a paragraph break and <br> for a line break. You can also use some other html formatting like <b> and whatnot.
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Ian Atwell:
[quote user="Ian Atwell"] I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries.
Sorry for the late reply - the notification email was stuck in my spam filter. I did manage to get my arrears report - although it was complicated. There may be an easier way, but this works for me. I can use this export for both arrears and write-offs. I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries. You can attach query of all pledges with a balance greater than zero to the export, or run an export to excel of all pledges and their write-off amounts and dates, and create a static query of the gift id's that have a write-off. I was unable to create a query of pledges that have been written off, although it may be possible. On the output tab I chose - Gifts: Gift id, date, amount, balance, and Campaign info. Instalments: date and amount Instalments -> Payment: amount Instalments -> Write-offs: amount Constituent: id and name Write-offs: date and amount (*see below) From that data I can get a list of every instalment, and for each instalment I list how much is due, when it was due, what was paid, and what was written off. I can easily tell if any instalment is fully paid, partially paid, written off, or unpaid. From this I can create a cashflow-like report by month for write-offs, or list any unpaid instalment from a given time period (arrears). I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. I hope that helps. Ian * I added the "Write-offs: date and amount" to the export so I could ignore pledges that were written off long ago, I was only interested in how the recent write-offs were going to affect our cashflow reports that we ran in November for forecasting.I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. [/quote] FYI, exporting to Access directly is also an option out of RE, and then you don't get those errors that you get exporting to Report Writer format and opening in Access. If you export to Access 2000 format, you have the option to export separate tables for one-to-many relationships (an option you don't have if you export to Access 2007 format)
Using a split database is something I do all the time for reports that we need to refresh frequently Export to an Access 2000 db, then create a separate Access db and link your tables. Write your queries and reports in the front end db, and you can refresh the back end one from RE anytime, and have up to date data.
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James Andrews:
Hi all, I'm reposting yesterday's post to test the HTML formatting suggestions using a Chrome browser.
[quote user="Ian Atwell"] I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries.I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. [/quote] FYI, exporting to Access directly is also an option out of RE, and then you don't get those errors that you get exporting to Report Writer format and opening in Access. If you export to Access 2000 format, you have the option to export separate tables for one-to-many relationships (an option you don't have if you export to Access 2007 format)
Using a split database is something I do all the time for reports that we need to refresh frequently Export to an Access 2000 db, then create a separate Access db and link your tables. Write your queries and reports in the front end db, and you can refresh the back end one from RE anytime, and have up to date data.
I did manage to get my arrears report - although it was complicated. There may be an easier way, but this works for me. I can use this export for both arrears and write-offs.
I used a "Blackbaud Report Writer Database (MDB)" type of export which creates an Access database. Opening the db gave me an error of a missing a table "MSysAccessObjects" so I created a new access database and simply exported the tables from the db that RE created to the new database. I am an Access guy, so from there I built my queries.
James Andrews pointed out there's an easier way, export straight to Access. Not sure how I missed that option...
You can attach query of all pledges with a balance greater than zero to the export, or run an export to excel of all pledges and their write-off amounts and dates, and create a static query of the gift id's that have a write-off. I was unable to create a query of pledges that have been written off, although it may be possible.
On the output tab I chose -
Gifts: Gift id, date, amount, balance, and Campaign info.
Instalments: date and amount
Instalments -> Payment: amount
Instalments -> Write-offs: amount Constituent: id and name
Write-offs: date and amount (*see below)From that data I can get a list of every instalment, and for each instalment I list how much is due, when it was due, what was paid, and what was written off. I can easily tell if any instalment is fully paid, partially paid, written off, or unpaid.
From this I can create a cashflow-like report by month for write-offs, or list any unpaid instalment from a given time period (arrears).
I plan on experimenting with linking the tables between the two Access databases for a more permanent solution. Thanks for the tip, James.
I hope that helps.
Ian
* I added the "Write-offs: date and amount" to the export so I could ignore pledges that were written off long ago, I was only interested in how the recent write-offs were going to affect our cashflow reports that we ran in November for forecasting.
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