Potential Change to Particpant Center Address Book Group

Casey Flinn

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Brian Mucha

I think I agree with your logic. Regardless of what a team captain might prefer, from our perspective the person in question is already recruited to our cause. Focus their efforts on adding participants, rather than poaching from other teams.

Complication: What if the person in question is registered for the event, but not a member of any team? We might then want them to be on the team's recruitment list. (Assuming team members raise more than free agents.)

Regards, Brian

Casey Flinn

Brian Mucha:

I think I agree with your logic. Regardless of what a team captain might prefer, from our perspective the person in question is already recruited to our cause. Focus their efforts on adding participants, rather than poaching from other teams.

Complication: What if the person in question is registered for the event, but not a member of any team? We might then want them to be on the team's recruitment list. (Assuming team members raise more than free agents.)

Regards, Brian

Brian,

so it sounds like we really need 2 groups:

1) past team members who have not registered for the event at all

2) past team members who have registereed for the event as an individual

the remaining groups of

1) past team members on my current team

2) past team members who have registered but are on aonther team

really dont seemto provide value when the focus should be on recruitment and fundraising

thoughts?

casey

Brian Mucha

Casey Flinn:

Brian,

so it sounds like we really need 2 groups:

1) past team members who have not registered for the event at all

2) past team members who have registereed for the event as an individual

the remaining groups of

1) past team members on my current team

2) past team members who have registered but are on aonther team

really dont seemto provide value when the focus should be on recruitment and fundraising

thoughts?

casey

That's how I see it.

This will be a nice addition to the new persistant teams feature in the Summer release. I really like the added emphasis on the team part of TeamRaiser.

Regards, B

Noah Cooper

Casey Flinn:

Brian,

so it sounds like we really need 2 groups:

1) past team members who have not registered for the event at all

2) past team members who have registereed for the event as an individual

the remaining groups of

1) past team members on my current team

2) past team members who have registered but are on aonther team

really dont seemto provide value when the focus should be on recruitment and fundraising

thoughts?

casey

The only thing I'd put out there -- if someone has already registered as an individual, is it really a good idea to have team captains try to "recruit" them? Once someone's registered as an individual, changing team membership requires admin intervention. It seems this would just add more work for administrators.

Brian Mucha

Noah Cooper:

The only thing I'd put out there -- if someone has already registered as an individual, is it really a good idea to have team captains try to "recruit" them? Once someone's registered as an individual, changing team membership requires admin intervention. It seems this would just add more work for administrators.

Interesting point. That haddn't occurred to me, as the TR Manager usually handles those adjustments. I suppose they could be directed to a 'team member transfer request' survey or something to help with that.

I also wonder if there is any validity to the original idea that team members out perform individuals to begin with.

Regards, B

Shana Masterson 2

Brian Mucha:

Interesting point. That haddn't occurred to me, as the TR Manager usually handles those adjustments. I suppose they could be directed to a 'team member transfer request' survey or something to help with that.

I also wonder if there is any validity to the original idea that team members out perform individuals to begin with.

Regards, B

Hey Brian,

Team members definitely raise more than individual participants. Check out this Convio study from 2010: http://www.convio.com/files/Convio_P2P-Event-Benchmark-Guide_R4.pdf. I've seen similar studies, all showing the same thing.

This always brings me to wonder why registering as an individual participant is usually given the same billing on registration pages. How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves?

Shana

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Shana Masterson

Associate Director, Interactive Fundraising & Engagement

American Diabetes Association

Brian Mucha

Shana Masterson:

Hey Brian,

Team members definitely raise more than individual participants. Check out this Convio study from 2010: http://www.convio.com/files/Convio_P2P-Event-Benchmark-Guide_R4.pdf. I've seen similar studies, all showing the same thing.

This always brings me to wonder why registering as an individual participant is usually given the same billing on registration pages. How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves?

Shana

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Shana Masterson

Associate Director, Interactive Fundraising & Engagement

American Diabetes Association

smasterson@diabetes.org wrote:
How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves? 

Just lonely computer geeks. :-\\

Regards, B

PS - Hey, you've been born again? What happened to your community history?

Brian Mucha

Shana Masterson:

Hey Brian,

Team members definitely raise more than individual participants. Check out this Convio study from 2010: http://www.convio.com/files/Convio_P2P-Event-Benchmark-Guide_R4.pdf. I've seen similar studies, all showing the same thing.

This always brings me to wonder why registering as an individual participant is usually given the same billing on registration pages. How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves?

Shana

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Shana Masterson

Associate Director, Interactive Fundraising & Engagement

American Diabetes Association

smasterson@diabetes.org wrote:
This always brings me to wonder why registering as an individual participant is usually given the same billing on registration pages.

Interesting point. We actually show our links as...

Register as an Individual

Join or Form a Team

Using teams in teamraiser gets second billing.

Regards, B

Shana Masterson 2

Brian Mucha:

smasterson@diabetes.org wrote:
How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves? 

Just lonely computer geeks. :-\\

Regards, B

PS - Hey, you've been born again? What happened to your community history?

Oh stop, how could the most popular person on the Convio Community be lonely?

Yes, I've been "reborn". Or changed jobs is more like it. Convio had to create a new customer account and my old information could not be merged. So I'm masquerading as a newbie.

Shana

Brian Mucha

Shana Masterson:

Oh stop, how could the most popular person on the Convio Community be lonely?

Yes, I've been "reborn". Or changed jobs is more like it. Convio had to create a new customer account and my old information could not be merged. So I'm masquerading as a newbie.

Shana

'grats!

Regards, B

Casey Flinn

Brian Mucha:

smasterson@diabetes.org wrote:
How many people actually go to a typical thon event by themselves? 

Just lonely computer geeks. :-\\

Regards, B

PS - Hey, you've been born again? What happened to your community history?

Ok,

I have been thinking about this way too much over the last couple of days but I think I have landed.

Lets recoginze the permutations of what "team" groups could be in light of having new returning teams functionality:

1. Show me everyone on the team I was on in the last event
2. Show me those people who were on my team last event and who are on my team this event
3. Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have not registered for this event
4. Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have registered for this event but who are not on my team
   • Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have registered for this event but who are registered as individuals
     • Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have registered for this event but who are on another team

As you can see we can quickly approach list overload, but what is important is to give participants the options that provide the greatest return for recruiting. So we are going to tweak the two system groups to be:

1. Show me everyone on the team I was on in the last event - with this group participants can either keep in touch with old team members and if they are early registrants / captains they can focus on communicating to the whole team right away to join again
   
2. Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have not registered for this event - with this group participants can really focus in on getting the stragglers to register and join the team
   

I can see the value in" Show me those people who were on my team last event and who have registered for this event but who are registered as individuals" when we have some self service functionality. The other aspect to think of is really deciding how much effort to spend ton people who have registered for the event and decided to go it alone or go with another team. As a captain I would expect to either know about their decision before hand if we were a close team, and if it were a surprise I would want to maximize my coaching efforts for the team that is actively choosing to fundraise together vs. chasing "lost sheep"

Thoughts?

Casey